We’re having a civilized if unproductive conversation about what this is?
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November 5, 2021 at 5:24 pm #508549Jiji SheddParticipant
We have a votes for Fallstreak (confusing because it’s only half showing?) and for glory (also confusing because…it is). Can you steer us in the right direction please? Thanks in advance!
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November 5, 2021 at 11:10 pm #508587Hans StockerParticipant
This is an interesting one Jiji and a great image. It is a tempting one for sure and thanks for sharing it here.
There can’t be any glory for that phenomenon the sun must be behind the observer, while the sun seems to be in front behind the mountain.
In my opinion it isn’t a fallstreak either but I can understand why you think it is. A fallstreak hole usually appears in a layer of altocumulus which has the conditions for the undercooled droplets to freeze out resulting in fallstreaks. The band of cloud I see here is no altocumulus and I think it is low hanging stratus which is very probable in the chilly air around the mountain. This a good place for developing low stratus.
Now what do we see? The sun comes form behind the mountain and on top of the mountain are tall trees that will throw their shadows upon any clouds surrounding the mountain. The observer (you?) are in the shadow of the mountain. I think that the streaks you see are the result of the shadows cast upon a layer of cloud below the top of the mountain. The shadows are deceptive because they seem to be above the mountain. Here I found a clear explanation of what I think it is.
Shadows can appear above the mountain
With this explanation I suppose there is a layer of invisible cloud on which the shadows are cast
Any other opinions?
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November 6, 2021 at 5:03 pm #508624Jiji SheddParticipant
Thanks Hans, I appreciate the time you’ve taken to explain all this. Do you mind if I share this on a Facebook page called Cloud Identification Worldwide? It’s a public group with 126 members. I can credit you (or not). I won’t share unless I have your okay!
I love learning about all the possibilities, a shadow didn’t even cross my mind, I was the vote for “half a fallstreak” haha
P.S. this isn’t my photo, just one posted and that has generated wonderment!
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November 7, 2021 at 2:53 pm #508702Hans StockerParticipant
Thanks for asking Jiji, and no problem to share this elsewhere. No need to mention me. Have fun with it.
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November 23, 2021 at 8:19 pm #510735Ramona EdwardsParticipant
Tee hee!! I saw this on Facebook and actually suggested shadows, too! I guess I am learning a lot from you, Hans!!
BlessingsRamona
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