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Hello Alec. I understand from a post by Hygge you must have been active on the old forum some years ago.
It is certainly heavy the scenery you posted and to my surprise in black and white! Very nice. I Hope you noticed the thread(s) on the forum with only black and whites?
I like to thank you – now directly – for analyzing my pictures I posted recently of what might have been a part of a supralateral arc. And I am also happy with the provided links (one by Hygge and one by you) to sites with optical phenomena I wasn’t familiar with yet.
Regards, Hans
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Hi Hans,
I am pleased that I was able to be of some assistance to you!
It seems very strange to be back in this place after an absence of several years. If it wasn’t for Hygge or ‘H’ as we used to call him contacting me, I wouldn’t be here. The site definitely looks very different to what it used to, slicker, far more commercial, but at least there are one or two old faces still around. Pity Andrew Kirk has left the building, he was by far the best of the old guard…
If I remember correctly, the black and white threads started following a conversation between Mike Lerch and myself many moons ago; they certainly seem to have stood the test of time! I purposely didn’t post the image in one of the B&W threads because it is in fact a colour image. If you look closely, you can see that the light area of sky between the houses has a slight yellow tinge. It was taken last year when I was experimenting with the concept of achromatic chromaticity. Obviously, the image has been very heavily processed.
Best,
Alec
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Hi Alec,
So thanks to Hygge you entered the building again. The site is indeed rather changed about two years ago although not in respect to content, but mainly in respect to presentation and navigation.
It is funny to read that you started with black and whites following a conversation with Mike Lerch. Maybe you like to know what happened afterwards. Mike must have continued producing black and whites so that at the moment I entered the building they caught my eye and I got intrigued by the abstract beauties Mike produced every now and then in a single post. Following his example I started to experiment with b&w’s also and came up with some of my own black and whites in response. Eventually we got in a discussion about a separate place for b&w’s and at that moment Michael decided to start just a year ago the first Black and White Thread. From that moment we feed the B&W-topic almost every day with a new contribution and very soon Keelin jumped in. Last week Keelin just started Volume VII after about 600 posts in the former six volumes. We have a lot of fun with it and we seem to inspire each other with our abstract cloud pictures. It is nice to know how this has grown after the start in which you were involved.
I now can see that ‘Heavy’ is indeed a color image. When that was for experimenting with the concept of achromatic chromaticity you make me curious. I associate the subject – only knowing what it roughly means – with some notes I exchanged with Mikes about capturing iridescence in the ‘Not B&W’ topic of the forum. My experience is that the picture always seems to be less brilliant than reality, for which reason some enhancement seems to give a result more close to what the eye saw and the brain registered. But that might not be your reason for experimenting with achromatic chromaticity?
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Hi Hans,
I have just been on a trip down memory lane. I managed to access the old forum and found the discussion which instigated the very first B&W thread,
http://www.network54.com/Forum/385606/thread/1325221171
and the thread itself,
http://www.network54.com/Forum/385606/thread/1327852496
At 5.42pm on December 31st 2011 I said,
“I would also like more people to try and experiment with B&W as well as colour. Most of the classic cloud photography in the past was almost exclusively B&W. It’s only in recent years that colour has become predominant. Both have their place imo. If there is any interest, perhaps we could run a little in-house forum thread/competition for B&W images only? Anyone interested?”
I can’t believe that this off the cuff remark is still reverberating down the years! I remember those days fondly; we had a lot of fun and a great deal of good humoured banter and leg pulling. Perhaps if I stick around long enough, we might once more attract the great Dr. Corvidova to grace these boards….but that’s another story!
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Thanks for the Memory Lane links, Alec, and welcome back. Several names there I bemoan the loss (to this forum) of. Pardon the English. Thank heavens Michael (Mike Lerch) is still with us.
I tried to find Anita recently when The Helm came up, but failed. I also failed to find your own excited post of some exotic rainbow (which was close to going in the record books?).
‘H’
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Hey Alec! Still Teaching? and those Hawaiian Shirts?( if i recall correctly)..Im still with the clouds here in Az. I think I just wore out my 4 or 5th digital camera . Xmas mite be good to me. Yes B&W has been a lot of fun exploring. Keeps me from the Nonsense going on overhere this side of the pond. I look forward to seeing your posts . Its good to know about phenomena that doesn’t happen in the sky this far south. Have Fun!
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Hi Mike,
Good to know you’re still around! Yes, still at school though not teaching and still have the Hawaiian shirts. My, you do have a good memory! For several years, I had a print of one of your B&W images over my desk at work, though I lost it in the process of several re-locations. Looking back through our e-mail exchange I managed to find it,
Bring back any memories?
@Hygge. Thanks for reminding me about the rainbows. I may do a post about higher order rainbows in the near future and hopefully the good people on the forum might be able to help me out.
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Thanks to all for sharing this history and especially to Alec and Mike for planting the original B&W forum seed.
Alec, the stunning photo you began this tread with changed my breathing and I hope to see more from you. In your comments further down, you mention the fun and humor shared on the original site during earlier days. With Michael and Hans it’s never ending, and it would be a delight to have you join us there!
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So well said Keelin, I fully agree.
And, indeed it is fun reading the original forum discussions between Alec and Mike about black and whites. Some of it came back later in the notes from Michael in our conversations. The characteristic style I know from Michael is clearly recognizable in the old forum, among them the one Alec dug up and which Michael called Cloud Bush.
It is also nice to read we can expect something about rainbows, Alec.
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Thank you very much for your kind words, Keelin and Hans, much appreciated!
This morning, I conducted a little experiment. The sky was uniformly grey and uninteresting; visually there was very little texture to be seen. Most enthusiasts, even the most ardent, will stifle a yawn and will probably not think of venturing out with their camera. However, such conditions can conceal hidden treasures. I purposely took one image just to prove my point, dull, flat, lacking all semblance of life and vitality. The image you see below is an unprocessed jpeg conversion straight from RAW. Nothing to get excited about there I hear you muse.
However, after zapping the temporal field manifold of the RAW in darktable, juicing the Beyer functionality in Fiji and applying the Corvidova-Planck tau particle filtration module in PS, boom, we get something like this,
I don’t consider it to be a particularly good photo but it does demonstrate quite neatly how an interesting image can be crafted from a rather unprepossessing original. Many different images can be extracted from a single source if you apply a little thought and creativity. Another example of achromatic chromaticity, colour not B&W.
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